I had to find out which was really better, so I got my hands on both of these beasts for testing. The 709 is essentially a single stack version of the Mil G2. I’ll pass. Except maybe for a 1911, and Smith and Wesson makes a doozy for CCW: the S&W Performance Center SW1911 Pro Series 9mm. Ruger is just good, period. It choked all the time. Will consider the need for a rail, also. However, the pellets are small in size and few in number, and they spread very rapidly. And it’s fairly small with 10 round mag. It feels like it was custom made for your hands. I have a gun to protect myself. It fits full-size to subcompact pistols. The right side of the slide is marked “FORJAS TAURUS. I have shot 300 rounds total.. I’ve used Winchester Brass 115 grain each time. When the Taurus Judge hit the market, there was nothing like it. I am researching different pistols.. I’m wanting another. My response is that I paid too damn much for a good quality gun to be running steel crap (reliable or not) through it. And with the 15 rd ext. M&P 9 Shield EZ. The … It’s easy to say, “save up and buy a Glock!” but there’s a lot of folks out there living one paycheck at a time… and every week extra they have to save up is a week they don’t have a gun at all. Should apologize to Taurus and we the readers. What they did to owners that were involved in the class action suit tells you what they think of the customers. Go on some of the major gun retailers to read their user reviews. All in all I would save maybe about 20-40 bucks with the Taurus. I was able to acquire targets very quickly with ease in pretty much any lighting situation. With the right ammo at relatively short range, the .410 revolver is a devastating defensive weapon. Price: $550.00 Smith and Wesson M&P Shield EZ 9mm Terribly unfair review. Just realized Taurus in not mfg. I found your site searching about The recoil on my 9 mm Taurus g2c.. Another big difference comes when you look at the sights. Polymer frame, steel magazines holding 12-rounds of 9mm, easy to use sights, and slightly larger than the Sig P365 the G2C is on paper a great pistol. It’s the perfect truck or boat pistol. The .41-caliber FTX slug definitely engages the gun’s rifling and produced patterns similar to those created by the three discs in the PDX1 rounds without the hassle of the little BBs. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Credibility here is the issue. SAVE UP AND BUY A 365 XL FELLAS! Pretty impressive considering the 2.75- and 3-inch barrels of the Governor and Judge, respectively. Striker-Fired Full-Sized Pistol . My first and only post. In addition to 9mm Luger, the G2s is also available in .40 S&W which comes with two 6-round mags. Nevertheless, it isn’t American enough for me until they show me that the gun is sourced in the USA from raw materials upward. The Good: This brings us to the revolvers’ grips and ergonomics. For me, it’s better to wait and save up a few more dollars than simply buy something because I can at the moment. So, what makes one of them better and what makes them different? I’m a 62 yr old female. With that said, I wish the very best for all those who bought one. Smith and Wesson M&P Shield ZE 9mm Specifications . However, loading and ejecting .410 shells proved a bit challenging for the Governor, which preferred the smoothest shells. My main complaints come from the slide bite and the weird hang-up when it comes to inserting a magazine. What did affect my accuracy was the slide ripping into my hand. However, I have had some issues with the Pro-Mag magazines and my PT709 that do require a little push to get the mags seated into place. Winchester steel case isn’t even lacquered like cheap Russian ammo. Snap drills at 15 yards on a small target can always be tough with a little gun. Beyond that I ran into two failures to eject in my first 200 rounds which consisted of 50 rounds of brass cased ammo and a 150 of the Winchester USA Forged. Okay so I’ve never owned a Hi-Point. I kept most shots quicker than or at 1 second and landed most of my shots. The slides are marked “MADE IN BRAZIL.”. I’m no expert .. just an opinion. The Taurus trigger is different from other triggers but it has a very short reset in SA mode, which makes me wonder why the reviewer never mention it. The original Shield and Walther PPS are often down around $250. Their semi-automatics seem to have a decent enough reputation. Taurus Millennium series pistols are manufactured with injection molded polymer frames, and blued carbon steel, stainless steel, or titanium slides. VIDEO: 3-for-3 at 120 Yards with the Taurus Raging Bull .44 Mag Revolver. However, both the Judge and Governor exceeded my expectations. The G2s has been retailing for around $169 online putting it almost in the Hi-Point C9 neighborhood. The G2s is a small gun, ideal for concealed carry. At 15 yards, I shot groups measuring about 2.5 inches wide with some Cowboy Action .45 Colt rounds. Everything seems to be running smoothly now, but those initial concerns are valid and worth mentioning. My .02. Although the difference between a sig p365 and a Taurus is significant enough that I don’t blame anyone for going with them. I was particularly excited to turn these two beasts into mini shotguns with .410 shells. *The trigger. It may seem, therefore, that you just need to work out which is more important to you, and choose accordingly. Buckshot loads proved to be both effective and cost-efficient. Again, I look at these guns as very good home defenders, and a glowing sight offers an advantage in a dark home-defense situation. I have to use loader .. mags are so stiff. As such, affordable weapons are a must if we’re going to expand the right to keep and bear arms to as many Americans as possible. Caliber: 9mm; Capacity: 10+1, 12, 17, 19; Length: 6.50" Loaded Weight: 25.75oz; Width: 1.26" Smith & Wesson. I like to buy inexpensive pistols and I have owned all of the recent Ruger poly framed pistols. The G2s subcompact is a functionally accurate gun. Never failed once. Smith and Wesson M&P Shield EZ 9mm. We can, but we don’t, because we like to eat healthy. It doesn’t matter your race, religion, gender, or income level. This is whether the mag is empty or full. Sell your Glock, XD, or even Hellcat! Making .22 LR/.22 Magnum and .357/9mm single action revolvers isn’t a difficult engineering proposition. Compare the dimensions and specs of Smith & Wesson M&P 9 M2.0 Shield and Taurus G2c Spend a little extra for something reliable. Currently, Taurus will pay shipping for 90 days after … 40 S&W was the result. It’s never failed to go bang and is quite accurate. This Smith and Wesson 9mm is S&W's Officer frame in 9mm… The snap drills and Mozambique drills were simple and mostly accurate. I traded mine after a ton of misery. I would not use initial gun cost as a decision factor. Inserting a magazine in the G2s is oddly difficult. They came with my pistol. For cheap, I’d go Ruger and then S&W. Confidence is an important component in most things, a really big deal when it comes to a tool that’s there to save lives. That long travel is actually a safety feature and it is the same trigger as in the PT 111 G2/ G2C. The G2s trigger is okay, especially for a trigger that bills itself as a single action. Ruger is good if you’re on a tight budget. 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[self-published source] Available cartridge chamberings include .32 ACP, .380 ACP, 9mm Parabellum, .40 Smith & Wesson… The gun lacks any means to de-cock it. Handloading the 9mm is about the same as 38 Special, maybe a little bit cheaper. For reference, I officially tested the “2-441031T” model. But this ammo makes for some very fun skeet shooting. My Taurus pistols do not suck. It won’t win any awards, but it won’t affect your accuracy. It does nothing innovative, but is very serviceable. And it ain’t Turkish. 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Taurus has been around for a while and their reputation is…spotty. Barrel Length: 3.675. Still trying to save up for a Shield 380 EZ. Compare the dimensions and specs of Taurus G3 and Smith & Wesson M&P 9 Shield EZ. No FTF’s, FTE’s or the slide not locking back in over 400 rounds in either pistol. It was also easy to load.45 Colt rounds and eject their spent cases with both guns. Smith & Wesson vs Taurus 9mm. If you’re letting the trigger go beyond the reset point, then you’re not working it correctly. The G2s pull also feels like plastic is dragging on plastic the entire time. Ruger auto’s in the 80’s sucked balls! I tapped out a little earlier than average and 20 yards is the absolute max. Should apologize to Taurus and we the readers. With the semi-auto G2s I can’t say that anymore. Both companies offer good warranties, however, and both of these odd revolvers perform basically the same way. *For the same package size as a Shield, you get 12+1 instead of 8+1. I would be pissed if my $600 pistol is in lock up for 2 years. Ergonomics * * * I’m not sure if having problems with Winchester Forged ammo counts as ‘ammo sensitivity.’ They might have made improvements since it was introduced but several of my friends had problems with it in otherwise reliable guns. Magazines drop free, both loaded and unloaded and that is worth appreciating. Smith & Wesson had to play catchup and is kind of still playing catchup when it comes to availa… Outside of handling a few Taurus guns in stores, I’ve never shot one & don’t know of anyone that owns one. My Smith and Wesson Shield even chokes on that junk. Accuracy * * * Customer support in USA too if needed. Taurus reached the market first with its .45 Colt/.410 combination. I think recoil is high. For purposes of clarity, I consent to Athlon's collection, storage, processing, and transfer of my Personal Data and Non-Personal Data (as defined in the Privacy Policy) for the purpose of signing up for the email newsletter. Caliber: 9mm. The Judge I tested has an MSRP of $589, while the Governor is $869. Here's my question which would you prefer and why ? I don’t carry a gun without 200 rounds of error free function. The G2s seems to be a successor to the old Taurus 709 series of subcompact single-stack 9mm firearms. My 2 cents: Customization * * My 709 was total shit. These measurements were made with the shortest, non-extended magazines that are offered for each gun.These numbers pretty much deal with how well these little guns are going to carry on a day to day basis. The .36-caliber pellets in the Federal’s 000 Buckshot loads consistently hit within 4 inches of each other out of both guns. Currently, I’m waiting on them to ship a third tx22 to my ffl as a replacement. I have a Judge, only Taurus I will probably ever own, maybe the 357. but I am good with Sig for semi’s. A birdshot-equipped Judge or Governor would work reasonably well for small pest control. It gets about halfway in and then requires you to give it a good smack to get in there. Also, no matter how I held the Glock, it bit me and despite having large hands, I never had a Taurus bite them. Heritage is dead and so is Taurus. It’s flat and that’s a plus for concealed carry. Once you rack a round in the chamber the G2s is in single-action mode and it stays that way.”. SoCal, you make some good points, especially about the overall cost of ownership and operation. difficult. The good thing about taking my wife and daughter to dinner is that they eat so little, they get at least one and sometimes two meals each out of what they take home. The G2s is a single stack variant of the double stack Taurus G2c 9mm. I can easily buy truly American made guns from the bar stock and plastics to the finished product. I have the requisite Colts, S&Ws, Rugers, Walthers, etc., but the SCCY goes in the PU and the boat. The G2s reminds me of the grip on the original Walther PPS. The reset on this gun was very long. As stated above 9mm ammo is cheaper than 38 Special right now. The suggestion of the Kahr deserves serious consideration because their polymer frame models are reasonably priced, as light as light can be, narrower than a playing card, and have a beautiful, cam-release sear that is better than either the Smith or the Taurus. There are options that are lighter weight and more slim, but most of them cost significantly more. Back in the eighties and nineties when men were men and guns were mostly metal, Ruger’s pistols were reliable without fault. It gets about halfway in and then requires you to give it a good smack to get in there. I had to release it the full length of the trigger pull. I own a Taurus PT709 and a 9mm Shield. But it will shine the brightest as a home defense or … I will never sell my 365 XL! Zoom in on the text box just below the extractor, behind the serial number. Comparing the Judge and the Governor is something like comparing two brands of the same type of cereal. Yes, it was nice to work myself out of the trailer park to middle class and place of financial security. MSRP – $316 ($180 retail). At the range, I didn’t expect great accuracy results because these are snub-nose revolvers. I would much prefer to be able to decock and use DA rather than carrying around a striker fired gun in SA with a marginal trigger. If they overcome that poor Customer Support reputation, that is. The street price on this Taurus is around $180. My 2 mags hold 12 each. The pistol is simple and planned out well. The more powerful .45 Colt load produced much wider groups. Maybe “assembled in Miami with parts made in Brazil”. The Shield does not and if you want a WML, the TLR6 at 100 lm is the only option beside installing a $28 rail adaptor that will allow any light. So, for the cost of two guns, I spent less than one Glock. The Taurus’ soft grooves seemed to make the recoil a bit more manageable than the Governor’s harder rubber grip. It’s weird and happened with the display model at my LGS as well as the new model I purchased. Their semi-automatics seem to have a decent enough reputation. I have owned every kind of pistol under $600. All we really need is for the laws to get out of our way and let us carry everywhere and not hang us for legit defense. It seemed S&W was determined to build a bigger, better and nicer revolver. Much better ergos than a G26. But the G2C is designed from the ground up to be a highly affordable compact CCW pistol – and it nails it. I have never had to send one back to the factory. G26. I used Winchester USA Forged steel cased ammunition and with one of the magazines, the rounds would stick and wouldn’t allow the follower to rise. You are right. Everybody in America is armed at this point. At first, I created a massive shotgun-like group all over a target at 10 yards and couldn’t figure out why. it’s not uncomfortable. Considering that M&P original series 9MM and Ruger S9C both go for around $310, it makes no sense to me to take a chance with Taurus. MADE IN BRAZIL.” You can see this in the article’s third photo. Good review. It’s bad enough we cannot buy 100% MADE IN USA automobiles, there is no reason to reward that fact in the gun industry as well. The magazine release button is small, but easy to reach without much hand movement. Must be nice. The double-tap to the chest on the Mozambique drill was tough. I have both the PT111 G2 and the PT 709 Slim as well. I started at 15 yards and aimed at the Sage Dynamics Headshot target. There is never any assistance provided in the first place. Both the Judge and the Governor are incredible guns and, in my opinion, would make great choices for home defense. It is a beast of a revolver with a great feel and good sights, and Taurus offers a variety of different configurations. I have seen so much internet hype promotion in regards to Taurus firearms lately and it makes me sick. Oh, and you can get a better trigger for it through Galloway that will reduce travel by 20% and while also eliminating over travel. This is why I call these guns the ultimate home defenders. Taurus support (or lack thereof) would garner at least 1 less Overall Rating point. That’s a big difference in price for two guns that perform almost identically. It’s a bit like gripping a 2×4. Required fields are marked *. They just keep telling you thank you and to contact them if you need more assistance. For a while, it seemed that no other manufacturer would be able to touch the Judge. I paid $250 The G2s sports simple 3-dot sights, the same ones Taurus on the double stack G2c, the PT111 G2, the PT 140 G2, the 709, and 740 handguns. in the USA. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Your email address will not be published. The Shield seems more highly engineered, but the Taurus ain’t bad and saves money. No, they wouldn’t reliably kill a snake at 10 yards. Caliber: 9mm; Capacity: 6+1; Length: 6.26" Loaded Weight: 17.99oz; Width: 1.06" 3. Instead of traditional birdshot or buckshot, the 2.5-inch PDX1 shells contain three copper discs and 12 BBs that travel at around 750 fps. This is because, though Glock make a big thing out of it, the difference in size between the two weapons is actually pretty minimal. The Judge has a very soft ribbed/rubber grip that Taurus calls “Ribber.” The soft ridges are comfortable on the hand and provide a very good grip on the firearm. True, but the G2C and G2s are still made in Brazil. textured in several points around it. For reference, I officially tested the “2-441031T” model. Too many good guns out there to buy shitty one…. (They’re worried about backstop damage from the steel.) When I sent it off to Taurus, they said it was fine and returned it with the front sight bouncing loose in the box. I try to spend extra on Ammo, but 2 of my last 3 purchases were Browning and Benelli…. Taurus produced its first revolver, the Model 38101SO, in 1941.Beginning in 1968, it exported revolvers to the U.S. market through a series of importers. That may be, but you could also say the same about ammo. On the G2c, the safety and slide release are big enough to manipulate comfortably. * And yes, the price. I’ve shot federal, Remington, Winchester Hornady, fmj and hollow points. In testing, both the Judge and Governor performed flawlessly and really produced identical results downrange. The Governor comes with a tritium night sight up front that works very well. Specifications: Taurus G2s Semi-Automatic Pistol, Barrel Length – 3.2 inches accurate. That’s rather a bummer. While not the worst semiauto pistol trigger I’ve ever tried (tie between CZ100 and Colt Pony Pocketlite) it certainly is the strangest. It’s flat and that’s a plus for concealed carry. Get one son! Caliber – 9mm (.40 S&W also available) No thanks, I’ll just walk (with my S & W performance center .357 at my side). The Taurus G’s fill that niche with a good quality product. The G2s semi-auto pistol has a scalloped frame to accommodate your thumb and your trigger finger. * Nice grips with good texture. I have size 5XL hands, but have recommended the Taurus G2 and new G3 to my kid sister. And, in my opinion, they make for the ultimate home-defense and trail guns. It’s really a tough call, but I give a slight edge to the Governor because the front sight glows in the dark. Does the G2S share a significant number of components with the “C” model to bring down manufacturing costs? I’m not a Taurus fan. More guns in the hands of Americans? I kept most shots quicker than or at 1 second and landed most of my shots. The only problem I had with either was after 5,000 rounds on the PT111 G2 where the edge of the recoil spring had jumped over the lip of the guide rod. Like so many guns these days, the 9mm G2s subcompact comes in a simple cardboard box that contains the weapon, manuals, assorted paperwork, and two (yes, 2) 7-round magazines. I see no reason to support a company that does only enough to get away with making a claim, but does not live it to the fullest. End of story. Go on Youtube and read all the reviews. While the standard Judge is a five-shot model, the Governor holds six shots. In addition to 9mm Luger, the G2s is also available in .40 S&W which comes with two 6-round mags. Big enough for a good grip and you don’t feel as if your hand is going to slide around. It’s weird and happened with the display model at my LGS as well as the new model I purchased. The Taurus G2s 9mm sub compact pistol. My hands are big enough that I can pinch the hell out of them with the magazine base plate. It does nothing innovative, but is very serviceable. It is a beast of a revolver with a great feel and good sights, and Taurus offers a variety of different configurations. The G2s semi-auto subcompact has an overall length of 6.3 inches (Courtesy Taurus). I agree with GKC's comments. Measuring 6.6-inches overall, the barrel comes in at 3.6-inches – only slightly longer than the Glock 43. Forjas Taurus (Taurus Forge), a small tool manufacturer in Porto Alegre, Brazil, produces the first Model 38101SO revolver, combining technology elements from Colt, Smith & Wesson, and select Spanish … Some great handguns came out in the last year and now we're drooling for... by Personal Defense World / Everything is placed in an easy-to-reach position, right where you’d expect. The light single action pull is similar to the P99’s anti-stress mode. My 709 and G2C suffered from light primer strikes. Taurus sucks, buy anything but Taurus. Look to Ruger or SW if you’re broke. This was after I was dealing with an issue twice over. The benefit of that is aftermarket sights are widely available. If you have smaller hands or use a lower grip, you probably won’t experience that. It turned out the front sight was loose and was moving a bit between shots. This competes with a Skyy in my mind. Height – 4.8 inches I have two Spectrum 380’s that have been flawless in operation. That’s not the gun’s fault, but if you have big hands watch out. When the quick release lever is in the open position, you can slide the rail adapter back and forth match the rail slot to trigger guard distance on your pistol. This is going to come down to brand loyalty for a lot of people. User error…you gotta break it in. To order a copy, please visit outdoorgroupstore.com. Or, Taurus could build an American factory, source all materials and tooling within the USA and then I’d be willing to take a closer look. The last TX22 they sent had severe chatter marks on the lands of the barrel and you could not take the slide off the frame. Around here (metro Detroit), the indoor ranges check your elsewhere-purchased ammo with a magnet to make sure it is NOT steel. S&W even includes two 6-round and three 2-round moon clips with every Governor. However, having owned several 1911s and 92s, I can say that I’ve never had a lick of trouble out of them and they have been rock solid. Both rounds worked very well in the revolvers, but I would use the Hornady ammo over the Winchester in a defensive situation because the BBs are less predictable. I tested the buckshot at 7 yards to achieve these impressive results. Maybe I can justify my new gun by calculating how much money we save by eating out! The grip is aggressively textured in several points around it. get another. Unfortunately, Smith & Wesson only offers one style — a simple, straightforward black model — while Taurus offers many different models, finishes and configurations. They’ve had my TX22 for over 6 months now. Your email address will not be published. Oddly enough there are a large number of Taurus firearms in my stable and they function well. In reality, unfortunately,it’s not that easy. One other item to note. My pick for cheap service size is the Walther Creed from CDNN, S&W SD9, or Ruger Security 9. Had one – fantastic little pistol, easy to carry – I couldn’t say no to PSA’s $169 shipped special. The other big difference is that the Governor is also capable of firing .45 ACP rounds. Overall Length – 6.3 inches I am lacking in their plastic department. Both utilize rear sight channels like many other revolvers. I tested the Judge and Governor with a variety of .45 Colts and .410 rounds, and the recoil was very mild with the former ammo type. However, the grips also like to collect dirt and debris, and it doesn’t provide the no-thought hand placement of its competitor. By Diana . Doesn’t matter. They took my PT24/7 OSS in .45 and said it would be checked out and given an extended warrantee. That being said my Taurus G2C is the only gun I’ve seen run right through it without issue. Point being, we shouldn’t be dismissive of the gun just because it choked on one particularly terrible brand of ammo. Fun fact: The G2s and G2c are the same slide…. But, it is worth noting that the Governor digested all three ammo types without any malfunctions. (Courtesy Taurus). That crap doesn’t run in any of my guns. Overall Rating * * * While you do have to use moon clips to hold the .45 ACP ammo in place, you can mix .45 ACP, .45 Colt, and 2.5-inch .410 shotshells all in the same cylinder. Ammunition Capacity: 8+1. There was a time when if someone asked if Taurus was a good gun I’d tell them to save $50 more and get a Smith & Wesson Shield. I own a G2c. My experience with Taurus pistols has largely been negative, but that was confined to several revolvers. This wasn’t an issue with brass cased ammo and was only an issue with one of the magazines. I have both a PT111 G2 and a PT709. The Taurus G2s 9mm features a short accessory rail. I also tested Winchester’s PDX1 .410 ammo along with Hornady’s .410 Triple Defense rounds. I owe a 709. BYW, my EDC is a 43. I like them, but I dont mind a DA pull. I really like my SCCY CPX-2. 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